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Local groups react to news of Chertoff’s border decision

By Jonathon Shacat
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 - 05:09:14 am MST

BISBEE — Local humanitarian and anti-illegal-immigration activists have opposing views regarding a decision that will allow for construction of a border fence in the San Pedro Riparian National Conservation Area.

Work on the project was halted by a judge earlier this month because the government did not conduct a complete environmental impact study. But, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff used his power on Monday to bypass laws for the project.

Carmen Mercer, vice president of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, said she was happy to hear the news.

A group of illegal immigrants hikes at night into the United States along the San Pedro River, in this infrared photo taken by the American Border Patrol (not to be confused with the federal government’s U.S. Border Patrol). Based in Sierra Vista, American Border Patrol is a private, nonprofit organization that opposes illegal immigration. (Courtesy of American Border Patrol)


“Our ultimate goal is to secure the border with a fence,” she said. “I think it is awesome that Michael Chertoff has made that decision to keep on building it.”

She added the group would like to see the government build a “more stable” and “stronger” fence, but she noted “at least it’s a start.”

Mercer, who lives in Tombstone, said “the fence is an absolute must” because it will help “protect endangered alien women who are being raped in the desert and are being abused in the desert because they are used for trafficking and for sex and pornography.”

Peter Young of Citizens for Border Solutions, a Bisbee group that is part of the No More Deaths Coalition, said the fence is “unnecessary.”

“The Border Patrol runs a lot of sensors in that area because they know it is heavily trafficked. The sensors, I think, have proven to be effective, and, in our opinion, this whole wall-building fiasco is a public relations appeasement of the American people,” he said.

He said walls and vehicle barriers don’t prevent illegal immigrants from crossing the border.

It takes as little as 15 seconds to get over the wall, and ladders are available for rent in Naco, Sonora, Young said. He noted a photograph was recently published in the New York Review of Books showing eight men climbing the wall in downtown Douglas.

Glenn Spencer, president of American Border Patrol, a nonprofit border-watch group based in Sierra Vista, said he is pleased with the decision to move forward with the fence project.

“I must tell you that I am beginning to feel that Mr. Chertoff and the administration might well have gotten the message from the American people,” he said.

Spencer, who noted he is not a biologist, said the fence would pose “no risk to the environment, as far as I know.”

“Just from a visual standpoint in looking at it, it just doesn’t make any sense,” he said.

Young said the fence could have a negative effect on animals, such as pronghorn antelope.

“The antelopes that live on the U.S. side are a rather small and diminishing population, and they will genetically suffer if they are not able to breed with the larger population on the Mexican side of the border,” he said.

“If their population is cut in half like that, it’s going to continue the degradation of these rare species populations for sure,” he added.

Herald/Review reporter Jonathon Shacat can be reached at 515-4693 or by e-mail at jonathon.shacat@bisbeereview.net.

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    NOT The United States of Mexico! wrote on Oct 25, 2007 6:08 AM:

    " Go check out the photo from the 10/25 Herald of the border trash! We need the fence!! I'm with Bobby Jones - a little juice for the fence, please... It won't be until Mexico realizes that US CITIZENS are serious about stopping them from exporting their poverty that maybe the invasion will slow down and/or stop. It all comes down to money. The Mexican government couldn't care less about the people - only the money they send back to Mexico, but it will be bad publicity for Mexico if their citizens die climbing a fence they shouldn't be climbing! "

    Sheldon wrote on Oct 24, 2007 7:59 AM:

    " So some sheep are more important than the legal citizens of the US? I did not know some people have no more concern for us than that. The and filth left by the invading hordes cause far more damage than a fence can. Hooray for Chertoff finally getting the true picture. "

    bobby jones wrote on Oct 24, 2007 5:08 AM:

    " "My only concerns ,well there are two,Why not top the fence with a little juice to fire up the aliens who rent the ladder? On out farm electric fence keeps cows in etc..Also are we going to let them pass through the river? TO satisfy some water to the polywogs downstream? "

    Hard Charger wrote on Oct 23, 2007 11:40 PM:

    " To all the previous posters,well said! I am a Minuteman here in California and you should see all the third world garbage strewn about in our once beautiful deserts,it is a travesty. "

    Paul Miller wrote on Oct 23, 2007 11:06 PM:

    " I disagree with Peter Young about the ease of getting over the fence. Look at the gigantic reduction in illegal crosses in San Diego, plus women and children will not as likely use ladders, etc. to climb over. Peter does not speak of these 2 critical points, plus he doesn't say that the fence will significantly slow down the illegal flow. Lastly, Peter never mentions the fact that Illegal crossers cause more environmental damage to wildlife and the habitat than the fence could ever dream of! "

    Reenie wrote on Oct 23, 2007 7:58 PM:

    " The Sierra Club and thier ilk were paid off a long time ago by Soros and the elite.They should have no say in anything.I believe at least one of their members belong to the Counsil on Foriegn Relations,the group that is behind the North American Union. "

    JohnnyAmerican wrote on Oct 23, 2007 6:14 PM:

    " Mr. Young does not mention the fact that illegal aliens have destroyed the habitat that all rare species depend on for survival. The trash left by the illegal hords who care not for the Earth is destroying precious life and that is a fact. Also if walls did not work then why did all the illegal traffic divert from Yuma over to here? Because of the fence they built, the traffic came to Yuma when they built the fence in San Diego,all these areas have . Well I guess the facts make Young quite the liar. "

    Bobby wrote on Oct 23, 2007 4:18 PM:

    " Yes, Larry Brown, it is a higher priority to save a lizard to the Environmental Imposter Organization known as the Sierra Club. Folks, please, wake up. This organization has been taken over by pro-invasion, anti-American forces. Do not, DO NOT, send the Environmental Imposter Organization known as the Sierra Club one dime. Don't by their calenders, or other cheap trinkets they sell. Let the people who have taken it over and decided that over-population issues are not an important factor on the environment pay for their own little private club. Sickening that people could go so low. "

    Bobby wrote on Oct 23, 2007 4:06 PM:

    " It doesn't bother LA RAZA one bit that illegal alien women are being used for sex and pornography. It does bother the Minutemen/women, who have saved some people from death, never hurt any illegal and done more than any stupid arm chair liberal/progressive who complains about the Minutemen/women. Where it up to the Democratic liberal/progressives, more people would have died in the desert. They just sit around in designer clothes and gripe. Idiots. "

    John wrote on Oct 23, 2007 3:41 PM:

    " As Bush said after the world trade attach any nation that was not with us, was against and therefore an enemy. Now the same could be said for Bush him self. He has totally ignored the American out cry to protect our southern boarders, and stop pandering to illegal aliens. Has he chosen to become the new enemy? "

    John wrote on Oct 23, 2007 3:31 PM:

    " As Bush said after the world trade attach any nation that was not with us, was against and therefore an enemy. Now the same could be said for Bush him self. He has totally ignored the American out cry to protect our southern boarders, and stop pandering to illegal aliens. Has he chosen to become the new enemy? "

    T. Jamieson wrote on Oct 23, 2007 3:04 PM:

    " THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN NOT ABSORB THE POVERTY OF THE PLANET. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS BEING FLOODED WITH THE POVERTY OF MEXICO/ET AL WHICH IS IMPACTING U.S. SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, SOCIAL SERVICES AND POLICE SERVICES. WITH A COMING U.S. RECESSION, THIS U.S.ILLEGAL ALIEN POPULATION WILL ENGENDER DIRE CONSEQUENCES. "

    I Don't Care wrote on Oct 23, 2007 11:21 AM:

    " Who cares about a few antelopes that don't get to mate with Mexican antelopes? It is more important, to keep illegal Mexicans crossing to mate here. Want to see antelopes, go to Wyoming. WY has more antelopes than people. "

    Anon American wrote on Oct 23, 2007 11:21 AM:

    " So many of these "local" groups have been using the excuse that immigration is a federal issue. Well, the federal government stepped in. Now, if they don't like it; too bad. "

    Wow wrote on Oct 23, 2007 11:09 AM:

    " Peter Young wake up! "walls and vehicle barriers don’t prevent illegal immigrants from crossing the border" That makes no sense at all. Walls do work. Ask all the East Germans that could not get over the wall in Berlin. The environment needs the wall too. The illegals have caused irreversible damage that your sensors do not pick up. If you were actually pro-environment you would want the illegals to stop trashing the place. Don't really care about the antelopes. Save them from the illegals too. They eat the stuff left behind by the illegals then they die. "

    Larry Brown wrote on Oct 23, 2007 9:44 AM:

    " We live in the age of insanity. Assume for a minute there could be a negative effect on the pronghorn antelope or some rare lizzard or snake if a security fence is completed across the U.S./Mexican border. Is that a higher priority than stopping a foreign invasion and preserving the sovereignty of our nation? "

    Eddie F. wrote on Oct 23, 2007 9:28 AM:

    " This guy who is against the fence says that it "is a public relations appeasement of the American people." HELLO! Isn't that what the American government is supposed to do, appease the American people? Appease = "to bring to a state of peace, quiet, ease, calm, or contentment." Sounds right to me! "

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