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Christmas in the county jail: Just another day

Special meal, gift are only holiday reminders

By Katie Evans
Herald/Review
Published/Last Modified on Friday, Dec 26, 2008 - 05:12:27 am MST

BISBEE — Only two small changes to the routine let the Cochise County Jail inmates know it’s Christmas: a special lunch and a gift consisting of snack foods.

Otherwise, it’s just another day.

Inmates are allowed out of their cell at 6:30 a.m. and have to clean their cell, in addition to cleaning the common area with the other inmates.

During the day, the 228 inmates can watch television or play cards, among other activities they would be able to do any other day of the year. They have to be back in their cells at 10:30 p.m.


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“It’s a bummer for an inmate to be incarcerated during the holidays,” said Jail Commander Rodney Leon.

Leon said the special meal, which is served at lunch, and the snack foods gift — which is paid for with the money generated through the inmates’ purchases at the commissary — is meant to help lift spirits during the holiday season, during which time suicide attempts and depression can increase in the jail.

“Spirits can go down,” Leon said. “We try to do what we can to keep spirits up.”

So far this year, Leon said there haven’t been any problems with suicides or depression.

On Christmas Eve, Leon and other jail staff handed out the snack food goodie bags to inmates, who thanked them and wished them a Merry Christmas.

Many inmates say the meal and gift help.

“They make it sort of enjoyable,” said Marcella Reyes, who’s been in jail for two-and-a-half months as a result of not paying fines.

For many, though, it’s still tough to be in jail during the holidays.

“It’s been hard being away from my son,” said Tanya Ethridge, who’s been in the jail for three months for assault with a deadly weapon. Ethridge, who is six months pregnant, will be heading to prison. “It’s another lesson learned in life.”

Ethridge said the holiday meal is nice because “it was real meat” and, though being in jail is the last place she wants to be, she said she’s actually thankful for it.

“It’s keeping me clean,” she said. “By sending me to prison, it’s given me a better start in life.”

As different women spoke about the difficulty of being in jail during the holidays, many of them cried.

Leon said he allows visitation on Thanksgiving and Christmas, but for Valla Lee, who’s in jail for a probation violation, she hoped her family would stay home.

“I want my family to just stay home and do Christmas at home,” she said. “I don’t want to ruin their Christmas.”

Rikki Rodriguez, who’s in jail for the first time, said it’s difficult to be away from her three children.

“I was told just to try and keep my mind off of it,” she said, adding that it’s difficult to do so. “To not sit in my room by myself.”

The women said they have become each other’s family while they’re in there, and Rodriguez credits that for helping her get through the holidays.

“I love everybody in here,” she said. “And if not for them, I’d probably be falling apart right now.”

Manx Russell, who’s in jail for a probation violation, got emotional as he talked about being away from his family during the holidays.

“It’s hard,” he said, his eyes welling up. “It sucks.

“I thought I’d be home with my wife.”

Jeff Guthrie, who’s also in jail for a probation violation, described it as “the worst time of my life.”

“I just had a baby,” he said. “I miss my family and I hope they have a good time out there.”

He’ll be in jail for two-and-a-half years.

Arturo Esparza, who’s been in jail for three weeks waiting to get extradited to Colorado, said to get through the holidays he just has to “take it as another day.”

Peter Van Sickle said he has family in Sierra Vista who he hasn’t been able to get ahold of, and described the holidays as “very hard.”

“It’s kind of horrible,” he said.

Trying to get through it, Van Sickle said he “walks in circles,” is “getting reacquainted with the Lord,” playing cards and watching very little television.

Brent Mulvaney is spending seven years in jail after being charged with first degree burglary. While he said the gift and meal “makes things a little bit better,” he said it’s still hard.

“It’s the first time I’ve ever been away from my family,” he said. “It’s hard on them as well.”

Herald/Review reporter Katie Evans can be reached at 515-4611 or by e-mail at katie.evans@svherald.com.



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    what point wrote on Jan 9, 2009 10:27 AM:

    " to the anti-christ guy here...point?...did you have a point?..seems like all you did was poke your fingers in your ears and not have the courtesy to consider another persons point of view...oh and nice jab with the bambi-mother thing.you lost major points there budd "

    To bambi... wrote on Jan 8, 2009 2:37 PM:

    " Thank you for proving my point with ending your post with the words “spiritual enlightenment”. You believe anyone who doesn’t hold your views is not enlightened and therefore beneath you. This is a common belief of religious groups. I am not intolerant of a supposed spiritual enlightenment; I am opposed to the bible thumpers who felt the need to interject religion into a debate that had nothing to do with religion. Oh and sorry about your mom, it was a pretty sad scene. "

    bambi wrote on Jan 8, 2009 10:10 AM:

    " To "To the bible thumpers"...No, I don't "hate" it when someone injects ancient wisdom into an argument. If someone had quoted the beliefs of Churchill or Lincoln, you would not have had a problem with that. Virtually all of the negative comments here expressed against the article are merely belief, not logic, just attitude and belief. And now we see your belief and attitude expressed here, one that takes us off topic, and that is your intolerance against a spiritual enlightenment. "

    Yup wrote on Jan 7, 2009 11:10 AM:

    " Got that right about the bible thumpers ruining debates. My thoughts exactly. We goin straight to H*ll, though, you know. "

    To the bible thumpers... wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:44 AM:

    " Don’t you hate it when you have an interesting debate going some bible thumper has to show up and start throwing god or christ into the mix? It seems to me christians (and most other religious groups) are the most intolerant groups of people in this world. You can’t debate logically with them because their views are set on beliefs not facts. If you say you don’t believe in their version of god, then the debate turns to how their god is so awesome and the true debate is then lost. "

    Mommy is right wrote on Jan 7, 2009 1:27 AM:

    " Anyone who has read this article will understand that these criminals are receiving their due punishment. No brainer. When I read the article I do not get the sense that this is a happy place. Especially on Christmas. What I like about the article is that it shows me reality. What is sad is how some commenters here have utterly no humanity and probably would have made good koncentration kamp goons. The Herald has done thousands of stories about soldiers and cops and firefighters. This was not a predictable holiday piece. It touched a nerve and I am glad. "

    Kentuck wrote on Jan 6, 2009 9:21 PM:

    " Many of those that are in county jails are awaiting trial. That means they have been convicted of absolutely nothing. But whatever, he who is without sin should cast the first stone. I hope the same angry trolls that post here over and over will not one day recieve the same treatment they have given out. Would you even recognize Christ for who Christmas is named? Hard to believe you would. "

    His Mommy wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:36 PM:

    " con't. After they do their time for their crime, will they be able to get jobs to support themselves? Will they have acquired skills or rehabilitation while doing their time? Or, because of their criminal record they aren't hireable, will they go back to their old ways to survive for a while until they are caught again and put back to where they belong? There is definetely a much broader picture than many want or care to see. And that is their choice. As for sinning vs breaking laws, DO THE CRIME-DO THE TIME. "

    His Mommy wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:12 PM:

    " I guess my point was misunderstood. No one in prison or jail is coddled or pampered, by any means, nor should they be. That was not my intention. And they are treated like the criminals that they are. And, again I say, JAIL is not REHABILITATION. My concern is that the help that many need to become law abiding citizens is just not there. There are many opinions, but no remedies. It is everyone's problem if you put a little thought into it, they will be released back into society someday, and then what happens? What will they be doing? "

    fromexperience wrote on Jan 6, 2009 12:21 PM:

    " “that those incarcerated have a mommy somewhere who did the same to them not so long ago! "
    I worked in the criminal justice field, juveniles as well as adults. The sad thing is that most of them would not be where they are now if they have had a mom or dad who had “tucked them in every night. “Most of these so called moms and dads had other things to do, like committing crimes themselves. However, not feeling sorry, because the incarcerated individuals, juveniles or adults, know what is wrong or right, no matter how the upbringing was and how their current situation is. "

    jojo wrote on Jan 6, 2009 10:50 AM:

    " while I do not agree that the inmates should have gotten anything for Christmas- paid for by themselfs or not, I do not think it's a big deal eaither. I have been to jail- and very quickly learned- I did not want to be there, period. The only way these people will rehabilitate (and the rate is LOW LOW LOW) is for them to accept responsibility and take the consequences. Unfortunitly- most, if any, will not. They blame everybody else- trust me, I have been there. "

    To His Mommy wrote on Jan 6, 2009 8:09 AM:

    " Sinning doesn’t necessarily mean you are going to jail so let’s not mix breaking some god’s laws with breaking the laws of society. Why would prisoners be treated like law abiding, productive citizens? They aren’t! They should be treated like the criminals they are and certainly don’t deserve any “treats” regardless of who pays for it. They are there for their blatant disregard for the rules of society. People that want to coddle criminals deserve to be the victim of the very criminals they want to pamper. "

    Jay wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:34 AM:

    " Who cares? You do the crime you do the time it doesn't matter what day of the year it is. If you don't want to be there you shouldn't have messed up to begin with! "

    No Sympathy wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:27 AM:

    " The bottom line is that rehabilitation only works on a small percentage of criminals. If you look at the prisons and jail houses across the country you will notice that a large majority of the prisoners are repeat offenders. Criminals, regardless of their crime, will never receive any sympathy from me. They made a choice to commit a crime and need to be punished. If anything prison time should be harder on criminals. Some prisoners have cable television in their cells, but I know many law abiding people that can’t afford such a luxury. "

    His Mommy wrote on Jan 4, 2009 8:47 PM:

    " JAIL does not equal REHABILITATION. It is a holding place in an alleged criminal's life, locked away from society to protect all the good folks that have never sinned (breaking God's laws) or broken society's laws in any way. Prisoners are not treated like law abiding, productive citizens either. So those of you in a frenzy ought to just pat yourselves on the back for being who you are. Maybe you have great ideas for a program that will help these souls become better citizens before they are released so that we can all sleepbetter "

    His Mommy wrote on Jan 4, 2009 8:21 PM:

    " Thank You for the article of interest. Great Job. Just to let everyone who commented know, comissary purchases are costly and the money the inmates use comes from family or friends. Not all inmates have the resuorces to order from the comissary. So, it is a treat for them to be thought of, not a reward for their crime. They are doing their time and it is not a vacation, So, tonight when you tuck your little one in, remember that those incarcerated have a mommy somewhere who did the same to them not so longago! "

    Sickened wrote on Jan 4, 2009 5:35 PM:

    " just a soldier: AMEN!!! "

    What wrote on Jan 4, 2009 3:51 PM:

    " So we are supposed to feel sorry for the inmates because they screwed up and are locked up on Chirstmas? What??? Heres something everyone can be sad about. What about the Jail Officers who spend Christmas, and other holidays, babysitting the criminals? They spend their days at the jail and miss out on family time. I want to say thank you to them!!!! "

    froth or not wrote on Jan 4, 2009 9:42 AM:

    " that's why we have prisons. lawbreakers go to prison.sometimes to return over and and over again. often times till light bulb goes on. while former offender goes in and out of prison, what crimes are they committing to send them back?Who is victimized? How much tax $$$ are spent to process them back in prison? Wouldn't it be cheaper and more effective to use tax dollars to educate and educate and educate inmate. Inmate is captive audience. Use incarceration time as a time to work a change in thinking. It's cheaper and safer for community. "

    Just a Soldier wrote on Jan 4, 2009 5:54 AM:

    " Rehabilitation? I'm all for it. I'm also for the immediate re-incarceration of the rehabilitated prisoner if it fails. Did you notice how many of these prisoners were in on probation violations? Sometimes the problem just cannot be fixed with any amount of rehabilitation. Rehabilitation is useless unless the person who should be benefitting from it is willing to put forth the effort to really change their ways. It's their responsibility to change their ways, not mine. "

    froth or not to froth wrote on Jan 3, 2009 9:43 AM:

    " shed no tears; take pratical steps. there's no comparison;soliders, law enforcement, surviving families left behind deserve our respect and assistance. calling incarcerated and returning ex-offenders names and thinking they should be ignored and seperated from society is not gonna happen. ex-offenders move back into society, become our neighbors, take jobs. Now, do I want the ex-offender to live in my neighborhood and work at the corner business and re-offend making me a victim or my neighbor a victim and continue draining tax dollars, or do I want my tax dollars to fix problem while they're incarcerated? Rehabilitation+ effort=safer communities. "

    Robert Lynch wrote on Jan 2, 2009 10:02 PM:

    " We have widows and orphans of our men from war, we have the same from our police, highway patrol and our firefighters and people are worried about the trash and garbage in the County Jail! These people are the dregs of our society. They deserve to be separated from honest citizens.
    I shed no tears over this scum. "

    just thinking of others wrote on Jan 1, 2009 6:55 PM:

    " You have alot more than many people who are not incarcerarted have. Just be thankful you are alive and have a roof over your heads. And prayer doesn't hurt either.AMEN "

    Kyrie Eleison wrote on Jan 1, 2009 4:22 PM:

    " How interesting to see the 'merciful' attitude of some these commenters...all because on a holy day these inmates received a 'special' meal and a small gift (paid for by the inmates themselves). Some day, you 'perfect' ones will find yourselves in a position of needing some mercy and it will not be given. How sad that day will be for you. "

    Rehabilitation wrote on Jan 1, 2009 2:40 PM:

    " Who cares, there aren't jobs for honest hard working people. The middle class has been reduced to working two jobs to afford Chinese Crap at WALMART and thinking that's good.
    I worry more about them "

    to forth or not to froth wrote on Jan 1, 2009 11:00 AM:

    " 1 plus 1 equals two. Repeat offenders don't have the mental or emotional goods to begin with, that's how they become repeat offenders. Tax dollars house the inmates. Society picks up the emotional and financial tab when ex-offenders return to communities and re-offend. Sickened and everyone else; what do you propose? Lock-up inmate forever, not gonna happened. Keep frothing and getting sick and saying, 'straighten out, fly right. why can't you just do what I do and mind the law?' Obviously help is needed. Use tax dollars to rehabilitate while inmates incarcerated. Build safe communities. It works. "

    Sickened wrote on Jan 1, 2009 10:31 AM:

    " Froth, you make an interesting point. Question remains, can they be rehabilitated? many of those mentioned are repeat offenders. If rehabilitation was an option for those souls, why didn't it work the first time? Yes, fear drives my next statement: Who will be victimized next when these people are released? Will it be you, your neighbor, your child, your parent? Chances are it will be someone,we'll read about it in the paper. I'll bet a dime against a dollar the majority of those criminals will repeat, will they get caught again, or will they get away withit? "

    Mae wrote on Jan 1, 2009 8:35 AM:

    " Gees it sounds like several of these people have been in jail before so why don't they remember how it was before and behave in a way not to end up back there instead of complaining about it when their behavior is what got them there. it is no one's fault but their own. The rest sound like with proper behavior they also would not be there so why don't these people accept responsibility for their behavior and not keep making the same kind of mistakes. they do the crime let them serve the time "

    LS wrote on Jan 1, 2009 7:07 AM:

    " Yes, jail sucks! That's the point!
    You miss your family and new baby? Gee why didn't you think of that before you violated your parole or committed first degree burglary on a fellow citizen? "

    Soldiers arent at Home Either wrote on Jan 1, 2009 6:55 AM:

    " The criminals made the decisions that led them there. Soldiers are not at home either, but for much different reasons. Yeah, it sucks to be in jail anytime, but who made the choice that led them there? Soldiers made the choice also, but their separation is for a much more noble and worthy cause. Not much sympathy for either, but one group definitely deserves more. "

    to froth or not to froth wrote on Jan 1, 2009 12:27 AM:

    " Community voices ignited in anger and discomfort at inmates during Christmas gives a tiny glimpse at some of the intolerance and indifference embedded into a wall of fear some lawabiding citizens experience. Crime impacts the victim and the community. Some people belong in prison. People incarcerated are paying their debt to society. Most of the incarcerated return to society. As a law abiding citizen do I want to froth at the mouth and raise my fist and snarl at the returning ex-offender or do I want to see my tax dollars used to effectively rehabilitate the inmate? "

    ABC wrote on Dec 31, 2008 4:18 PM:

    " They are in Jail for a reason. They dont need any special treatment.Give them a extra glass of water at dinner. "

    finally got it right wrote on Dec 31, 2008 11:38 AM:

    " The Herald finally printed a story on the front page today that should have been printed in place of this article. Maybe they should have let Mr. Hess have the front page slot and let Ms. Evans print this non-deserving story somewhere else. "

    Lee wrote on Dec 31, 2008 10:46 AM:

    " Boo Hoo...Don't do the crime and you won't do the time. "

    not surprised wrote on Dec 31, 2008 7:56 AM:

    " Its sad that so many people listed here has forgotten about what Christmas means. Christ was born and he brought a boat load of forgiveness with him. I have spent my time in OIF and I appreciate the huge support we got from the folks back home. These days I watch the tv and everyday there is a piece about our soldiers. Every once in a while its nice to see somthing different like this story. "

    yeah just another day wrote on Dec 31, 2008 1:40 AM:

    " A mama wiped a baby's bottom. A daddy busted his back at the job. And then they probably traded shifts. How come you didnt do a story ABOUT THAT? I for one do not want to hear stories that might make me uncomfortable because I sure as heck know I am more smarter than these jail Birds. Sticking my fingers in my ears BLAH BLAH BLAH CANT HEAR YOU and for the record I am NOT a pharisee or a hypocrite. There I have spoken. "

    KK wrote on Dec 30, 2008 5:41 PM:

    " Good story. And interesting comments. I agree with 'Refreshing' and 'Old School' and the like. We see lots of stories about the sacrifices of soldiers and public safety heroes. This was a different story. A little variety is nice. Thanks, SV Herald. "

    True Reality Check wrote on Dec 30, 2008 5:24 PM:

    " "just another day" "learning how to commit crimes and maybe not get caught next time" is more like it. I have sympathy for the ones who were actually putting forth an effort while they were free, but how much do you want to wager that a lot of the ones listed were committing the majority of crimes in the area? You should have done a piece on the police (like the street crimes unit). I'm more interested in hearing how much the crime rate dropped because these people are in jail. "

    Just another day wrote on Dec 29, 2008 7:34 PM:

    " It was just another day for the police, firefighters, 911 operators, soldiers, Circle K clerks, power plant plant operators, train engineers, truck drivers, farmers, and on and on. We could name hundreds of occupations that have to work 365, to keep things going for all of us. But Evans decides that the jailbirds are so inconvienced, and writes about them. "

    Chris S wrote on Dec 29, 2008 11:07 AM:

    " Guess I don't have to put in my .02 cents on this, enough people have already said it plenty.
    So, I'll just say this...SV Herald, please stop wasting your time, our time writing some crap like this. You could have done the same story on all the law enforcement, military and other entities that are serving their country and our citizens...rather than people that do not deserve our attention. Good job on once again getting it all wrong! "

    Wake Up needs to Wwake Uup wrote on Dec 29, 2008 5:41 AM:

    " what a mouth on you ; these deployments are NOTHING compared to some WWII GIs who got ZERO CHristmases at home. 48 month deployments in WW2. i wonder if american boys could take that nowadays? how about 400,000 war dead? your boy got two christmas. Besides, this paper does thousands of soldier stories. DIdnt you see the earlier comment? We. Have. Been. There. Done. THat. This story was something new and different. How dare you act like god against those behind bars. You are not their judge but only some self righteous bigot "

    Dan wrote on Dec 29, 2008 5:06 AM:

    " Pfffffftttttt!!!!!! hahaha! This is too funny!!!!!! this people have it so nice in this jails! they should have thought about it before they wnet and did whatever act of stupidity they commited. Treat them like human beings? then why don't ehy choose to behave like normal humans? "

    Wake Up wrote on Dec 28, 2008 8:33 PM:

    " What a crap of a story. My step son just happened to pick up a terrible 9 month rotation while serving with the special forces. 9 months in SW Asia and 9 months home. Since 2001 (yes 2001) he has been home for two Christmases. And why not a story on the brave men and women who couldn't be home because they were serving their country. Not this crap reporting on people who broke the law and in jail because of lack of self restraint. Well Katie. You or Hess? "

    My Comments wrote on Dec 28, 2008 4:18 PM:

    " Gosh, so many righteous folks want to put in their 2 cents. They just got back from 1 of 2 annual church services that they attend. Give me a break. Can you treat someone as a human being rather than evil because they chose to be? Their actions don’t affect only themselves. This isn’t a story to judge whether or not they deserve to be incarcerated. If the SVH printed a different front page story, you folks would still find criticism. Get a life. "

    Ramos and Compean wrote on Dec 28, 2008 11:36 AM:

    " There are two Border Patrol agents in Prison for doing their job. My heart is broken for them and their family. Still no word from George W. Bush. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Dec 28, 2008 8:54 AM:

    " To Old School Principals: Oh so we should give them presents and nice food and other benefits that don't have anything to do with the true meaning of Christmas as you say. No one is depriving them of their right to sit in their nice jail cell to pray. All I am saying it they should be deprived of every other luxury that they got on Christmas day. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Dec 28, 2008 8:42 AM:

    " To Mary: I have no pity for someone that chooses to break the law. I didn't force them to do what they did so why should I take pity on these scumbags? Like sickened said, they seem like they probably are sorry but once they get out they go right back to their old ways of crime. No pity from me. Maybe you need to have one of these scumbags commit a crime against you and then see if you still think the same way. "

    Old School Principles wrote on Dec 27, 2008 10:21 PM:

    " For those of you missing the point, it is not being said that they aren't guilty, it is not being said that they shouldn't do the time and/or be "given another chance". I am simply stating that while they are serving their punishment there is nothing wrong with an article about them. The article isn't a debate as to their guilt or innocence, it is simply a report covering information not seen in a while. The reporters intent was not to rehash their convictions or stir up a lynch mob. "

    wake up wrote on Dec 27, 2008 8:49 PM:

    " Why don't you look on public access and see how many times these poor folks have been "given a chance"? Yes, it is punishment, but how many times do they need to be given a chance? Obviously, they cannot live according to society's standards. Somehow the rest of us have kept out of jail. WE are the victims. We pay for them to be incarcerated. Joe Arpaio has the right idea - let's become part of Maricopa County! "

    mirror for some commenters wrote on Dec 27, 2008 5:56 PM:

    " JESUS SAID: "...The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' ... "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God, have mercy on me, a sinner.' ... "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God ..." . Luke 18:9-14 "

    Evil lurks wrote on Dec 27, 2008 3:58 PM:

    " It appears that most of the letter writers in this blog are not Christians. It they were, they would have compassion for those who have erred. Most of them likely DO belong behind bars for their crimes. That does not mean those incarcerated do not have feelings or love for their famlies. There are many reasons that people stray from the straight path. Jesus would have still loved them all. Thanks Herald for giving us this look at another side of Christmas.
    P.S. I do not have any family in jail/prison, I just have a heart. WWJD "

    Old School Principles wrote on Dec 27, 2008 3:08 PM:

    " "Carlos and Refreshing" you are right on the money, seeing the story for what it is, a story that hasn't been told in a while. "Herford" - a Christmas bag isn't "special treatment" Christmas is Christmas, no matter where someone may be. There were no bells and whistles, no trees, nof gifts, no turkey with all the trimmings, should they not celebrate the most important reasons we are all here? They are serving their punishment, we shouldn't deprive them of what He stands for. "Mary" they are being held accountable, every single minute of every day. "

    To Old School wrote on Dec 27, 2008 2:00 PM:

    " They aren't there because of their parents or anyone else. They are there because of what THEY DID. THEY broke the law. The attitude that it is everyone's fault but theirs, leads to "the world owes me" frame of mind. Which is likely part of the reason they are where they are in the first place. I had a crappy childhood & was abuses, but I'm not a criminal. I became a productive member of society, so I don't buy that it's anyones fault but their own. "

    still disgusted wrote on Dec 27, 2008 1:27 PM:

    " Did anyone notice that most of those interviewed were in for "probation violations?" How many chances do those people need? They were OUT & couldn't manage to behave lawfully long enough to spend Christmas with their families. How many more chances are we supposed to give them? Even if their families never taught them right from wrong, their probation officers surely told them the difference as a condition of staying "free." "

    Charles wrote on Dec 27, 2008 1:01 PM:

    " Mary - You should keep your sermons to yourself, or to those who want to hear them. Someone here said that "God's laws were fact." That could not be further from the truth. God's laws are based on supersitions and myth. If you choose to believe them, that is certainly
    your privilege. "

    Carlos wrote on Dec 27, 2008 12:47 PM:

    " Hereford Resident - No, there is no family in jail and I've never been. And no, I don't believe prisoners deserve special breaks. If your daughter, son, or a loved one (that is the point) were in jail, yep, we believe you, you would be saying the same thing. We do not need to be schooled or your banal comments about breaking the law, special treatment, doing the time, etc., etc. "

    Cindy wrote on Dec 27, 2008 12:30 PM:

    " The girl in the photo could be anyone's daughter. "

    Just Jake wrote on Dec 27, 2008 12:27 PM:

    " Well, I was indeed wrong and assumed it was a child because she certainly looks like one. I agree that judgment has been rendered by the judicial authorities, but there is still a good deal of glib judgemental comments being bandied about. "

    refreshing wrote on Dec 27, 2008 12:18 PM:

    " On Christmas Day, the Sierra Vista Herald published a magnificent article with multiple photos of the returning 11th Brigade company. Military units from the Fort are glorified on the front page numerous times throughout the year, year after year. Same with police/fire. The perspective of Christmas from the prison is not one that I can recall seeing in this newspaper, at least not in the last five years. That is news (vs. propaganda). Thank you Herald! Do not give in to a couple of armchair editors filing from multiple IP addresses. "

    Not fooled wrote on Dec 27, 2008 12:11 PM:

    " Why are we to have compassion for these people who made the decision to do things that put them in jail. The kids are probably better off with someone else as it is readily apparent that their real parent(s) put crime in front of taking care of their families. Why can't people just obey the laws and not put themselves in these positions. Let's focus our compassion on those that try and do the right thing but just can't make it, not those that choose to victimize society. "

    Oh Duh wrote on Dec 27, 2008 11:25 AM:

    " I think a piece on homeless people would have been better. The prisoners at the CCJ are warm, clean, fed, medically cared for and have a nice mattress with blankets. Also, children in this county who have to do without what the CCJ offers adult offenders who should know better. God bless the mentally ill/sick and the children who suffer. "

    Mary wrote on Dec 27, 2008 9:57 AM:

    " To those of you bashing on the Christians,and anyone else who has no pity for the inmates.Living in a relationship with Jesus does not mean we do not hold people accountable for their actions.We are to forgive,but we are to still hold one another accountable.God forgives sin, but there are also consequences to our sins.The people sitting in jail are facing the consequences of there "sin". Being a Christian does not mean turning a blind eye.And before you start bashing me here,I visit the fail weekly to share Gods love and forgiveness.Accountability has been thrown out the window.... "

    sickened wrote on Dec 27, 2008 9:11 AM:

    " The expereince taught him very little once he got out. Oh yah, while he was in there he had found the lord, seen the error of his way, was a rehabilitated man, blah, blah, blah the same bla blas that filled that front page story. Once he got out... same old story, drugged up, stealing anything he could get his hands on, lying about it to cover up. While I hope that some of those people can be rahabilitated to be good parents, and contributors (instead of detractors) to society, I'm not holding my breath. "

    sickened wrote on Dec 27, 2008 9:06 AM:

    " The point about the puppy is right on, these children of these inmates deserve to have better, should grow up in a place where they learn morals and values, and learn to be productive citizens. Unfortunately they are likely being raised by the same family members who did not do the job right with their parents. As for 'how would we feel if it was our relative'? Let me be the first to say it has been my relative, my crackhead, theif of a lying uncle robbed his own mother, his sister, and his niece. -continues "

    Why this wrote on Dec 27, 2008 8:52 AM:

    " I have no sympathy for these scum. I have spent only one Christmas with my Family in the last 13 years. I have had to work all Major Holidays away from my family in this time. Why should I feel sorry for the ones in the jail. This paper should do a story on all the civil servants who have to spend time away from their loved ones during the Holidays. Not only Christmas and New Years but all Holidays. There are hard working men and women, Police Officers, dispatchers, and Fire Personel alike. "

    JP wrote on Dec 27, 2008 8:08 AM:

    " What next? Are we going to get some story about how the prisoners have "rights" to be free? This is pathetic and misguided 'journalism'. "

    old school principles wrote on Dec 27, 2008 3:09 AM:

    " I too believe in a doing time for the crime but the story was not meant to compare them to our soldiers and other loved ones that can not be home for Christmas, it was a factual report. Our soldiers have been on the front page. These people are someone's children also and most of them are there because of bad parents or other negative circumstances. The story and the inmates are not looking for your praise, it is only a report. A lot of you are quick to "cast the first stone". "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Dec 27, 2008 12:01 AM:

    " To Carlos: Even if one of my relatives were in jail I would be saying the same thing. They broke the law and deserve nothing special. Apparently you have family in jail because you feel that prisoners deserve a break. I for one think they should be out everyday picking up trash or working for the county. They did the crime so they can do the time but no special treatment just because it is Christmas. "

    Hereford Resident wrote on Dec 26, 2008 11:46 PM:

    " Give me a break SVH. These are prisoners that have done something illegal and wrong. They should not get any special treatment just because it is Christmas. They don't deserve any of what they got for Christmas. Maybe it will make them think about what they did to get there. "

    Brenda wrote on Dec 26, 2008 11:24 PM:

    " It still breaks my heart to hear this story whether they deserve to be there or not. It doesn't sit well with me. What a pity. I hope they keep this article so when they do get out, they can rememer how they felt being away from their family members.
    Why don't you people lay off the editor for story choices. Read a different paper if you don't like this one. No one forces it on you. "

    Just a Soldier wrote on Dec 26, 2008 9:11 PM:

    " Jake:

    Nobody here is judging these people. That's already been done by the judicial system and they've been found guilty.

    And that's not a child in tears. That's an inmate. "

    more facts wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:11 PM:

    " Yes it is unfortunate for any family to be separated at any time let alone the holidays but don't be taken in by the one woman's comments "hard being away from her children." She "chose" to walk away months before her incarceration and bailed on scheduled visits with them. Now she has time to think about it and she just now misses them? How hard does she think it is for those she chose to leave behind? "

    Please Katie Evans wrote on Dec 26, 2008 7:19 PM:

    " Tell us why you thought this was the best article you could write at this time of the year. This isn't heart warming.
    Some donor gave a million to people that lost their apts. in a fire in Mpls. Not local, but heart warming. "

    sorry for their children wrote on Dec 26, 2008 4:24 PM:

    " The children are the ones being punished, as well as the family member.

    My heart goes out to the children, that is why we send gifts to the family children. "

    unfortunate for them... wrote on Dec 26, 2008 4:21 PM:

    " unfortunately for them, they should have "thought" of the crime they committed before doing it.

    Letting them out of the cells is a nice jesture, however.............

    I agree with the person that said :
    YOU needed to let the soldiers now we appreciate them on the FRONT PAGE. "

    no sympathy here either wrote on Dec 26, 2008 4:17 PM:

    " My husband was away from his family on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day too - because he works in law enforcement. The scumbags don't take a day off unless they are locked up, so the rest of us have to be separated from our loved ones too. The criminals' kids should be adopted out to decent families that will teach them what their jailed parents obviously can't. Thank you to all the law enforcement, jail staff & especially deployed soldiers for working on Christmas Day too. "

    hoho wrote on Dec 26, 2008 2:26 PM:

    " Look at all the pharisees that come out at christmastime! LOL "

    wow wrote on Dec 26, 2008 1:43 PM:

    " you have to be kidding me they are in jail. it is supposed to suck. our criminals are sad they are in jail..... you guys must have been hurting for news. shouldn't have broken the law then you would have been home for christmas. "

    To Baghdad Jim wrote on Dec 26, 2008 1:36 PM:

    " Thank you for serving in Iraq and for serving your country. You, my friend, should be front page news. You are giving up your holidays so idiotic news stories like this can be printed. Bless you and your family--I wish you all a wonderful Holiday and a Healthful, successful New Year. God bless. "

    Why this piece wrote on Dec 26, 2008 1:32 PM:

    " I'm curious as to why the Herald thought this piece would be a good idea. Of all the wonderful groups of people who are away from their families this Christmas and THIS is who you want to talk about? As for the person who weeps for these people who 'make mistakes' and 'find themselves in unfortunate circumstances.' Yes, people do. And when they make 'mistakes' the unfortunate circumstances are overdraft fees, the wrong kind of peas, or pink underwear. Criminal activity is much more than a 'mistake.' "

    disgusted wrote on Dec 26, 2008 1:25 PM:

    " Whah...Whah..Whah! Criminals in jail on Christmas and I'm supposed to feel sorry for them? What a ridiculous front page story. Not even worth the space it used up. Maybe you should have spent the time writing a real story about the men and women over seas who aren't with their families. My husband has spent 4 of the last 5 Christmas' over seas. Criminals get no sympathy from me or my family. What did they think when they did the crime(s) to get in there? That there would be family leave for holidays? HAHA NOPE! Justice "

    Worthy Story wrote on Dec 26, 2008 12:45 PM:

    " Jesus Himself said in Matthew 25: "For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me."

    Let's repeat that: I WAS IN PRISON AND YOU CAME TO VISIT ME.

    Thank you Herald. And Merry CHRISTmas to all! "

    I AGREE wrote on Dec 26, 2008 12:45 PM:

    " I AGREE WITH FRONT PAGE NEWS... THIS IS PART OF THEIR CONSEQUENCES..FOR BREAKING THE LAW.. "

    Baghdad Jim wrote on Dec 26, 2008 12:02 PM:

    " I certainly understand the longing for family at Christmas. I just passed my second Christmas away from my family in Sierra Vista while working (as a productive member in our society providing for my family and supporting great American men and women wearing the uniform of our country) in Iraq. "

    Front Page News wrote on Dec 26, 2008 11:57 AM:

    " This is our front page news? Shame on you Herald, surely there was something else more deserving of front page news. How about asking those soldiers that came home on Christmas Eve what it means to be away from family. This article didn't even deserve to be published, let alone the front page! "

    Thank you wrote on Dec 26, 2008 11:36 AM:

    " This have given me an interesting perspective on the holidays. It is an important time, even for those in jail. The rest of these commenters seem like bitter people. No one, even this story, is saying these inmates are not where they are at without reason, so please find something else to scrooge on about.

    Btw, Really, haven't you seen the past week's stories. I believe there were no less than 8 stories on holiday giving already. "

    pam wrote on Dec 26, 2008 11:28 AM:

    " Oh, boo hoo! "

    Carlos wrote on Dec 26, 2008 10:37 AM:

    " When it is one of your family or loved ones in jail, I am not so sure that you will be writing with such disdain. Yes, these individuals did not comport to society's rules and are paying a price. And while you are certainly entitled to express an opinion, your snide remarks are petty and unworthy of a thoughtful adult. You should just zip it, unless this gives you a feeling of moral superiority. The Herald makes a good effort to write a human interest story - and we get moronic commentary such as this.. "

    Too Bad wrote on Dec 26, 2008 10:21 AM:

    " This entire story left me with no sympathy whatsoever for these degenerates who put themselves in jail because they chose to break the law. Who cares about their Christmas goodie bags (which they don't deserve) and the sadness they feel. What about the sadness and they put upon their victims? Did they care if the crimes they committed where done on a holiday? No! And don't ya think that if they were still on the streets, they wouldn't be doing the same things that landed them in jail? Wah, wah! "

    Disgusted really wrote on Dec 26, 2008 10:04 AM:

    " Hello! It's Christmas! If you want a pity story, how about the victims of these criminals? I sure don't feel sorry for them. How about the parents dealing with a strung out kid from drugs, not the dealers. How about the injured or the murdered victims families? How about the people who were robbed, not the ones who robbed them? This is what is wrong with our world. The media is constantly trying to force us to feel for the criminals. Disgusting. You don't know the meaning of Xmas. "

    Mary-cont. wrote on Dec 26, 2008 9:18 AM:

    " because someone thought they had to right to take a life. And what about that child spending Christmas without their parent because that parent is in jail.
    Those are the people you should focus on. They are spending the Christmas day alone because of the people in jail. I do not feel sorry for the people in jail. They had a choice. They did it to themselves. Being alone with no presents, family, or Christmas meal is their own fault. They choice to their path. Because of them others lives are ruined, Their choices affect everyone in some way. "

    Jake wrote on Dec 26, 2008 9:17 AM:

    " To you perfect citizens and wonderful Christian brothers; there are many people who make mistakes and find themselves in unfortunate circumstances. God (if there is one) will judge, you shouldn't. The only thing in poor taste here was taking a picture of a child in tears, even if it was okayed. That was intrusive and insensitive and she does not deserve to be exposed to her friends this way publicly. If you ever end up in jail, you can expect your friends will be writing similar comments. Happy Holidays. "

    Krazycross wrote on Dec 26, 2008 9:13 AM:

    " Special food? Holiday cheer? Watching TV all day? Warm cozy place with friends... Not bad at tax payers expense. Too bad they don't experience a "real" jail like our third world counterparts do. Now THAT would be a story. "

    Mary-cont. wrote on Dec 26, 2008 9:11 AM:

    " that the police have to work on Christmas day to deal with. They decided to take up residence at the jail by harming the person that the doctors, nurses, and EMT's have to attend to on Christmas day. The residents of the county jail, who we, the tax payers pay for their meals, lodging, and their medical, choice not to be productive citizens. Their are families who have family members deployed, helping make the world a safer place. While their children spend the holiday with a parent. Their families who are missing a relative because "

    Boo Hoo wrote on Dec 26, 2008 9:06 AM:

    " This article brought me to tears, Not! thinking about those poor people who are in jail ,for hurting or stealing from someone. What a waste of ink writing about them. Do the crime, do the time. "

    Mary wrote on Dec 26, 2008 9:02 AM:

    " Lets see. The police have to work on Christmas. The firemen have to work on Christmas day. The hospital has to have nurses and doctors working on Christmas day. Some gas stations are open. And how could you forget we have men and women serving in our armed services who also are working on Christmas day. What do they all have in common--they are HELPING people. They are away from their families for the day also. Residence of the jail of the county jail--they choice to take up residence at the jail by their choices to break the laws, "

    Sierra Vista Resident wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:51 AM:

    " Well, more sympathy from the good folks of Sierra Vista. At least have a little hope that these folks learn from this experience so that their lives change for the better someday. Yes, they made their own choices, but many (and I'm not saying all, mind you) were based on how they were molded growing up. A child is like a puppy when they're very young-- completely dependent on the parent. We need to be stronger about molding our children again. "

    Iris Lynch wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:41 AM:

    " Apparently this newspaper and the writer do not understand that this is supposed to be punishment for activites that have hurt others including their families. It is hoped that the prisoners learn a lesson from this punishment and not repeat behavior that will put them in the same place again. As the one prisoner said, he is learning..Good for him...he has hope.
    Victims? If they feel that way, they are doomed to repeat, because it wasn't their fault and therefore cannot be changed. "

    Free Thinker wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:39 AM:

    " You've got to be kidding? With all of the great charitable organizations we have in our community the S.V. Herald decides to run a front page tear jerking story on the people who intentionally put a black eye on our town. What an insult to all of those who contribute financially to this media! "

    Paul Arnold wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:32 AM:

    " What silly way to fill a "newspaper!" I feel sorry for the victims of these wretched people. These people are ALL in jail because of a choice they made. They are not victims. We are their victims.
    As someone who worked in the justice system, both as an attorney and judge, for nearly 40 years I have found most criminals to be both poorly educated and stupid! "

    SOULJA FO JA ARMY wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:26 AM:

    " DO THE CRIME SPEND THE TIME .
    CRIMINALS WILL HAVE NO MERCY FOR THE VICTEMS. "

    Lauren wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:26 AM:

    " With everything that is happening in our society these days, can you honestly tell me that the Herald couldn't find something newsworthy to put on the front page of the paper? This disgusts me. Boo-hoo. Not so much. "

    Mikey wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:18 AM:

    " Michael Jackson is rumored to have once said "Tito, get me a tissue". Thanks to the guards and other jail employees who had to work guarding these criminals. Bet they would rather have been home with their families. "

    Dragoon jim wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:18 AM:

    " HO, HO,HO,
    Im glad the legal system is working. Makes my heart warm. "

    JP wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:07 AM:

    " they're right where they belong "

    Amazing wrote on Dec 26, 2008 8:05 AM:

    " Maybe you should have taken the kid from the school section and put her on the front page, and buried this one somewhere deep in the paper.... "

    Just a Soldier wrote on Dec 26, 2008 7:59 AM:

    " Forgive me for being far less than sympathetic. Thousands of Service men and women are far from their loved ones, all over the world. Here's a little secret for the inmates, something that most of us grow up knowing. Jail is not a good place. It's supposed to be tough. It's not my fault you're there, you only have yourself to blame. Dry your tears and deal with it. "

    Hmmm wrote on Dec 26, 2008 7:46 AM:

    " Most should probably be in jail for longer sentances. They all did something wrong to be in jail. No pity for those who did something wrong enough to be in jail. "

    Really wrote on Dec 26, 2008 7:17 AM:

    " I understand that being away from family on the holidays is hard, but could the Herald not find something better to put on the front page? These people are there because of their own choices. Why not write about the families the Fire Department helped, orsomething a little more uplifting? "

    sickened wrote on Dec 26, 2008 6:41 AM:

    " Pity for criminals on the front page? While I understand compassion, particularly this time of year, these people earned their time in jail. Why should we pity them just because its Christmas? Who we should really feel for are the people they wronged to end up in jail, and the children who grow up thinking criminal activity and jail are a part of life. They did the crime, now they have the time, holidays or not. Maybe they'll learn, maybe they won't. One would have thought that the parents behind bars would make better choices... "

    ha ha wrote on Dec 26, 2008 6:39 AM:

    " It's a bummer they couldn't manage to be productive members of society. "

    David wrote on Dec 26, 2008 6:20 AM:

    " To the author: So I am now supposed to be in tears, wailing and gnashing my teeth because the prisoners in the county jail are not happy? Or maybe I should try to locate Mr. Van Sickle's family to inform them that he is in jail, and not happy? Got news for you kid. Jail is jail. "

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